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Meeting Minutes
 

Minutes of August 3, 2000

[Approved September 7, 2000]

Present: Paul Locke, Bill Dailey, Peter Mortimer, Nancy Naslas

In the absence of Bob Boisselle, Paul Locke served as Chairman.

Voted: to accept the minutes of 6-15-00 and 7-20-00.

Voted: to pay the Secretary's invoice for the month of July for 15 hours, totaling $150.00.

Granite & Burnett Streets/Venturo

Paul read a letter sent to Gabriele Venturo from Elizabeth Saboujian of the Department of Environmental Protection, Northeast Regional Office as follows:

"I am writing you to inform you of the construction status of my single family home at the above referenced address and also to express my appreciation and gratitude for your assistance during the stressful time of the home construction process. After complying with all of the requirements of the City of Melrose the building inspector issued me an occupancy permit. To that end, my wife and I have moved into and are enjoying our new home. In addition, I have planted vegetation, in accordance with the instructions given by Mary Rimmer of Rimmer Environmental Consulting, and stabilized all areas surrounding the home as per the 'Plan of Land, Granite & Burnett Streeets, Melrose, MA, prepared for Leslie Nash by Otte & Dwyer, Inc. with engineering by McKenzie Engineering Group, Inc. Sheet 2, dated June 3, 1996, and last revised May 28, 1999, signed and stamped by Bradley C. McKenzie, R.P.E. #36912.' I am in the process of seeking a Certificate of Compliance in accordance with the Superceding Order of Conditions Massachusetts Wetlands Protection Act, General Laws c. 131 Section 40.

However, I am concerned about the silt fence and the decomposing hay bales, which have been laid down inside the property line during the time of construction (they have been therefore well over a year). The odor emanating from the decomposing hay bales is so foul that it is impossible to enjoy the outdoors. Specifically, my wife, who is in ill health, cannot enjoy sitting out on the deck due to the malodorous rotting hay bales. Therefore, I am requesting permission to remove the rotting hay bales and silt fence so that I can enjoy the outdoors as well as the indoors of our new home.

If you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to contact me at (617)889-3165. Please respond in writing by fax (617-887-0082) so that I may expedite the removal of the above.

Sincerely,

Gabriele Venturo

Cc: Melrose Conservation Commission Joseph W. Lynch, Deputy City Engineer, City of Melrose"

Paul: Since this was covered by a superceding Order of Conditions, we are unable to respond directly to this.

2000 Open Space & Recreation Plan

We have received the 2000 Open Space & Recreation Plan from Jeff Luxenberg, Director and City Planner for the City of Melrose, which provides a five-year overall framework for the maintenance and protection of open space and recreational areas in the City of Melrose. This plan was developed according to the guidelines issued by the Massachusetts Executive Office of Environmental Affairs, and it incorporates the input of numerous public agencies, as well as the citizens of Melrose.

Correspondence

MassWildlife News from the Commonwealth of MA - Division of Fisheries and Wildlife. This newsletter includes a variety of topics including public hearings on deer and striper regulations; proposed changes to the state endangered species list; requirements for displaying sportsman licenses; and notes about redbelley turtles, Jr. Duck stamp winners, deer hunting applications, Bowhunting Festivals and the moving of Boston Office Mass Wildlife administrative staff out of the Saltonstall Building at 100 Cambridge St. and settling in temporary offices elsewhere. The Director's office and Federal Aid Program is operating out of the Westboro Field Headquarters and may be reached at 508-792-7270. Bear and deer hunting permits are being issued from the Westboro Field Headquarters.

Office of the Auditor, City of Melrose, to Robert Boisselle

A note has been received concerning a bill we are unable to pay because we do not have enough money in the line items. I will pass this along to our Chairman, hopefully to transfer funds.

Request for Determination of Applicability from the City of Melrose/Crystal Street property.

Rick Amirault: The property at 34 Crystal Street was involved in a contamination and an oil spill. After it was cleaned, it was then purchased by the City of Melrose, and actually the purchase price was refunded to the city by Drs. DesForges, who made a wonderful gift to the city of over $170,000, so that property could be transferred into the Park Dept. in perpetuity. Their wishes, and part of the Board of Alderman's order of acceptance, was that it be taken into the Park Dept. in perpetuity and remain an area of passive recreation, and so the Mayor graciously accepted the gift with those terms. We met with the DesForges a couple of times, once in the Mayor's office and once on site and I received their input on what they would like to see and what their idea of passive recreation was. We hope to get this plan implemented this fall and to get the species ordered quickly. If you look at the first sheet, it is really just an existing condition. As you know there was the American Legion Bungalow pretty much centered in the middle of this rectangle. That was torn down, numerous excavations were done. Pretty much all through the center of this the land has all been tilled, dug and refilled, and I guess it is monitored on a regular basis. I am really not up to speed exactly what EPA has in mind, but right now it is our property and there are three small well heads on the property that will be monitored continuously, but the top soil was all free and clear from contaminants. If you look at the beginning of the plan, there is a concrete slab, there is a concrete wall to the left of the property, there is a concrete walkway 3-ft. side and it goes all the way down which was the back door of the building. There is a concrete little patio with another wall, concrete stairs, you can see all the trees that are existing, and you can see the existing elevations as they are now. Some of those elevations aren't natural, all of them were disturbed when the building was removed. Those are the existing conditions, that elevation of Ell Pond right there at 44.71 is actually an elevation taken yesterday. The wall over to the next plan, as you can read the synopsis on the application, what we want to do is to take out all the structure there, we want to take out both concrete slabs in the front, the slab and the wall, we want to remove the walkway all the way down the property which is approximately 66 ft. x 3 ft. We want to remove the stairs, the wall and bring that all back to natural. We have selected a variety of native species here. I did bring Barbara Jesse with me. She is our tree arborist consultant for the City of Melrose. We developed the plan together on the species. If you notice on the existing conditions we have a real infestation of Japanese knot weed right along the shore. We really would like to remove that invasive species. It doesn't lend itself to see through it. What we hope to do, as you see in the other plan, is just to put a couple of park benches right there, remove that Japanese knot weed and plant it to the species you see listed which are all native wetland species which should solidify that whole embankment. We don't intend to do any work in front of that 46-ft. elevation, except to remove that knot weed and put in the native species. We do have to keep in mind that this is going to be a park and we have to keep ADA requirements in mind. We really did not want to go and pave or put any more concrete in there. We didn't want any more impervious surfaces, so if you look on the landscape plan, the existing stone dust pathway was a pathway that was constructed partly by the Park Dept., partly under a grant, and partly by the Ell Pond Restoration Committee. What I intend to do with this proposed plan is to run a pathway over to our park benches, from that do a curve cut out on the street for handicap access and that would allow persons in wheelchairs or other disabilities to diverse that path along which is the tennis courts on the other side, and then make their way down where they could end up by the benches to view the pond. Right in the center of the whole rectangle you see a perennial garden there, we have selected all perennial species. One more aspect of this is we would like to put in grass in most of this area. I would like to bring in irrigation which we have done in almost every one of our parks that we have rehabilitated. The cabinet would go right on Crystal Street. You see that right inside the property and we screen this also. I would like to turn this over to Barbara and she will explain the species selection and the way we decided upon this configuration.

Barbara Jesse: Being an arborist, let me start with the trees, start with the big plants on the site. What I tried to do is to work with native species that are custom to either a temporary flooding condition or a high ground water table, or this wet moist condition. In this corner along the street, I chose three 'Heritage' river birch, that is a tree that the Ell Pond Improvement has been using previously on the pathway, there is one over here, there are a few more further down the lane, and there is a cohesiveness about adding onto that. It is a tree that has not been prevalent around Ell Pond. The prevalent species that we have is a short lived species called poplar. River birch is a medium size tree that gets to be 25 to 30 ft. max. It has attractive exfoliating bark. It is very disease and insect proof. So it is an all around good top native tree. It is called river birch because it generally grows on the banks of rivers. In two spots, next to the river birch at the street and up here by the benches, I wanted to include some smaller flowering trees and there is a definite seam of pink flowering dogwoods along Emerson Street and Lake Ave. It is a wonderful cohesive season of bloom in the late spring, and in fact the Cornus florida is a native tree. So I included two of the pink flowering dogwoods. However, because of an ongoing persistent disease that has come from the south up to the north, which doesn't sound like it is going to go away, I chose a Cornus florida that is crossed with Cornus Kousa for hardiness and reliability, and a pink flowered one. So there is a little bit of seasonal bloom. Up at the plaque, we created an island bed. This is the heart of the garden, the centerpiece and a little bit of a thank you thought. The plaque will be inscribed with thank you to the family or a memorial to any chosen family members, whatever it is they want to do. So we wanted to very gently add some things to surround that and I chose an Oxydendrum arboreum which is a sourwood. If you look all the way north towards MassBank, on the corner of MassBank parking lot there is a magnificent tree that is in bloom right now. It is very pyramidal and it looks just like it is just carrying its blossoms down in beautiful sloping effect and it is just covered with white, what it is called is the Lily of the Valley tree or a sourwood. It is a native tree. It tolerates wet conditions, about 20 ft. maximum and it blooms now in August which is a little bit unusual, so again it prolongs that season of bloom. The tree committee, as part of its ongoing commitment to making suggestions and enhancements on different properties that the city owns, such as school properties, park properties, street trees, for a long time has expressed a desire to plant beech trees at the Crystal Street lot. We had in mind the last couple of years the millennial theme of planting beeches in the year 2000 for the next 100 years. There are several grand beeches on West Emerson and in several areas in town where there are larger properties, and they are probably 100 - 150 years old. We have begun a project of planting a new generation of beeches, so we would like to request planting a American Beech, which also was one of the trees included in the grant that the Ell Pond Improvement Council just completed planting for the extension of the planting on the other side of this canal. There is an American Beech that has been put in there and the Commission has approved. We would like to put another one here. It needs a spot where it can really grow, thrive and expand. Overall, we are looking at seven trees on this property. It may seems like a lot of trees, but over time you are going to get a nice interesting amount of heights and depths and widths, and when you look at a landscape over the long run, it is really your trees that are your major items that are going to last. A few blackeyed susans and a little spot in the center may be pretty for five or seven years, but after that if they are not divided and they don't seed themselves out in different spots, they may or may not be there, but a beech tree hopefully will be there in one-hundred years. The other thing I tried to do is plant in clusters, what I called little nursery groups, rather than putting things out in the open, one thing here, one thing there. At the back of the benches, also included into the bed with Cornus Florida, there are six Fothergilla gardenni. It is a native shrub. It gets to be a maximum of 3 - 4 ft. high, self limiting, again very, very low on pest insects, it is a wet foot tolerant plant. It has a lovely rounded characteristic. It tends to work beautifully when it is planted in a mass and it has beautiful fall colors. It is one of those low maintenance plants and yet it is still a native plant, and underplanted with that would be ten of the New England Asters, and hopefully in this little island the asters will spread over time to form a colony. Along with the sourwood in the central bed we have a shrub called Clethra or Summer Sweet. Butterflies are attracted to it. It has a white flower in the summer time and it is also a wetland species. It's a stoleniferous, overtime it will again form a colony. It is good for soaking up all the extra water. It forms a colony so it makes a presence in of itself. In other words, as it develops, the weeds won't come in. It has a nice shiny leaf and this variety is called 'Humming bird', which is one of the lower varieties. Some of the native species can get to be 6 to 8 ft. tall, this one will stay at about 3 ft. Also, in that bed are a couple of perennials that are on the native list, false blue indigo, Anabelle hydrangea, and black eyed susan, and I have some descriptives here on all of these plants. The shoreline has pretty good infestation of Japanese knot weed. For those who are not familiar with Japanese knot weed, it is an exotic invasive. What invasive means is once it comes in, it knocks everything else out. It just is so insidious and so strong that it just takes over in these huge colonies and it knocks all of our native species out. I wanted to read this excerpt to you in the Audubon Society Field Guide to North American Wild Flowers: "An Asiatic introduction recognized by the stout bushy branched jointed stems resembling bamboo." It gets to be 3 to 7 ft. tall. It qualifies more as a weed than as a wildflower, since once established it can rapidly take over a given area and it is most difficult to eradicate. Sometimes its stems are cooked and eaten like asparagus, which I would hope people would go out and harvest all of it and get rid of it. It blooms at the end of August, and when it is in full bloom is the best time to use a EPA approved herbicide for a wetland area within the 100 ft. setback. The second easiest way to eradicate it is in the spring when all the top growth is dead and there are the tubers in the ground. I was out there with the Ell Pond Council last spring. While they were putting in plants, I was pulling out these tubers and saying "let's plant some stuff over here in the shade when we get rid of all these knot weeds. So it is possible to do it manually. Eradicating it manually at this time of the year is a little tough, because those roots have really put all of their seasonal feeders out. It can be done manually, but it is a little bit of a tough job, so what I suggested is if it comes out, some of the natives should be reintroduced, some of the things we naturally find along that shore line should be put back and I was suggesting six button bush. It is a medium size shrub in the 6 - 10 ft. range. It blooms, it has an actual white flowering fluffy ball at this time of the year. I haven't spotted it around Ell Pond, but there is quite a bit of it up at Lake Quannapowitt and in some of the wetland areas up there. Rhododendron 'viscosum' which is swamp honeysuckle or swamp azalea, is a nice white flowering June blooming azalea, which has stoloniferous of good for erosion control, and then underneath it ostrich fern. It would be nice to see some of the native ferns which are a little bit more of a delicate plant come back along the shoreline. Last, but not least, up at the proposed irrigation cabinet along the road, rather than putting in the typical arborvitae's, which will get to be 12 - 16 ft. tall, to screen an item which is only 3 ft. tall, I proposed some Miscanthus sinesis. It is fountain grass. You may be familiar with it in neighborhood gardens. It has a tall column, a very, very slender wispy grass like frords, and it looks just like a fountain and it gets to be about anywhere from 3 to 6 ft. tall. It is quite lovely. It can take lots of water if need be or it can take the drought. It is very adaptable and has nice seasonal interest. It is not invasive and since it was up at the street, I thought that would be a nice screen for this area. I have some information to pass along to you about some of the trees and shrubs that we chose. These are some lists that I downloaded from New England Wildflower Society. They have a 40 acre wildflower preserve in Framingham called Garden in the Woods and they do quite a bit of work in terms of reaching out for the establishments of natives, micro climates, sub species, etc I have a reservations perennials list. The things that we used are highlighted in pink. I highly recommend the place. It is a fabulous research and a great place to visit.

Rick Amirault: Thank you, Barbara. I think you can see we have put a lot of thought into this. This wasn't just take a piece of property, level it out, and throw in some grass. We really thought of this in the tradition of a homestead property. Knowing that it is a long term property, the commitment was there to make it an established passive recreation site. As Barbara first explained these trees are going to be here for 100 years, these plantings are going to be well established. The irrigation that we'll pull in will ensure that they are going to take and that the beds and the gardens that we put in are going to maintain themselves with a little help from the Park Dept., but on the whole it is a self sustaining plan and it really should add to what has really been a neglected corner of the pond. Now that we have the tennis courts rebuilt and if we can add this property, it will make a vast improvement of the area. The Tree Dept., Park Dept. and Ell Pond Restoration Council just filed for another trails grant which will do more enhance work for the entire pathway around the park, including more trees, more trails and continuous path all around.

Barbara: Does anyone have any questions about the plan?

Nancy: I have a question about right along here there is a blank area in front of the two benches. What actually is going to be planted there.

Barbara: It is a small plant. It is a small blank area. As you are looking at it, it says existing maples, and those existing maples are pretty big in that area, their roots are really into that shore line, holding that shore line together. They are big huge trees. There is a very small little opening where there is nothing there except the view.

Rick: One thing I did want to highlight is that we are going to be removing about 198 sq. ft. of impervious material and replace it with grass. The path is completely pervious, it is just stone dust, but I intend to cut about 100 cu. yd. off the front here because of the elevations at grade. That is where the front door was. There is a wall right there you see so that is above grade now from the sidewalk. I want to cut that down. That is not even usable soils. I would like to take that off site and place it with 100 cu. yd. of loam. So there is a net zero with actual material, but there is a positive impervious surface.

Nancy: Looking at the contour lines, it looks like you actually drop it down a foot.

Rick: Right, the loam I am going to bring in is to be spread along the site all the way to I believe I said 46, I don't want to go into that real close buffer there. It doesn't need any soil. Everything behind that line has already been disturbed. It needs the loam on top of it, so what I cut off here will just give me the net zero cut and fill, so I will be able to bring in the loam and cover the whole site with the loam to establish the grade.

Nancy: Who has had input into this plan? You mentioned the Ell Pond Improvement Council and the Tree Committee. Have they seen this and had the opportunity to make comment?

Barbara: I have talked to the Tree Committee members about it. They haven't seen this much of the detailed plan. This is a pretty new plan, and it is summer. I don't think there would be much objection from the Tree Committee in terms of the fact that there is seven trees in the plan and originally we had been thinking about three trees. Since I was there to have something to say about it, I of course stood up for the trees. I don't know about the Ell Pond Improvement Council.

Peter: Have the DesForges been made aware of this?

Rick: I walked it the other day with the DesForges. The only thing that was a little fluid, we did want to include the ADA access and we talked about keeping the path along the left side here, but there are stairs in the middle of it. There is about 3 steps down there, so it had to go either way. It worked a lot better for me to come in off of the other side rather than create what might have to be a hot top path all the way and a foot wider than the current concrete path. By coming in over here, I am at the same elevation, and I don't have to worry about the slope and I don't have to worry about asphalt or concrete, so that is the only aspect of it that they hadn't seen, but we talked about it and I said I would work out a solution to it. Everything else they saw the way it is, including the benches and the stone dust and all of that. They were extremely pleased by what they saw.

Peter: You have a nice curb cut, I see over here in the low right hand corner.

Rick: Yes, that is the two functions that will have served the beginning of the trails that we already have and it will serve as an access to this location. What you see there is kind of a fence line border, but it is not even on the border. You just see it on the existing conditions plan. It is just kind of there. It is all a mess down by the pond. Of course, that will be totally removed. In the end, these will be one property as the Park Dept. moves to do some more improvements to the other side of this. Right now we are only funded and focused on this one at the moment. I hope to be back with more plans as we kind of move our way around the pond.

Nancy: People aren't going to go just straight down there, they are going to cut across your corner here.

Rick: They may. This is off the plan, but it is a good chance I'll end up with a triangle thing right there.

Barbara: People come and walk their dogs there now. That is the dog poop lot.

Rick: It sure is because I took all the shots.

Barbara: The ragweed is all 4 ft. high. It is all bumpy and lumpy, and it is like a dead construction site. The Tree Committee has been hoping and praying that we would finally get to this point because we would like to see it be more usable, acceptable and cleaned up. It was very wonderful, I have to tell you, when I was working with the volunteers last spring when plantings were going and this new path had just been in, it is amazing how many people use it now. I was really encouraged. Initially, I was a little hesitant, I thought you are inviting people in, what else are you inviting in now and they are going to bomb the birds and the birds are going to go away, but it is really used for passive recreation, families, walkers, people are cutting through for their walk around Ell Pond, so I think people that do come here are going to want to come here for a little bit of privacy, although none of these plantings exceed the 3 to 4 ft. high level, and then you have trees, so that you do have visibility from the street. I think it is really important that these benches not be the new drinking site because they are so secluded from the street.

Rick: Funding on this project will be partially of the Park Dept., partially of the Tree Dept. and Public Works, and partially out of the money given to us by the MDC for the beautification of Melrose which was $25,000, so a portion of that will go for this project.

Paul: For removal for Japanese knot weed, what is the pesticide?

Barbara: I have to check. It changes each year.

Rick: I wasn't planning on the pesticide. I am the only one that works for the City licensed in pesticide application. I know the pesticide that has been referred to. .I find the only way to get rid of these things is to get in and dig them up. They are really that invasive. You all must know what we are talking about, that bamboo. It has as much growth under the ground as it does above the ground. What we hope to do is just pull that all out with pitch forks, and what you have to do is as the scrubs keep coming up, you have to be in there and pull them up. Eventually, you keep doing that and keep taking the tops off and the roots are going to die. I have had them in my yard, and I used to have them in my florist when I was down there. It is the only way to do it. You can put everything on it, and it is not going to kill it, and I really don't want to put that type of intense herbicide next to the pond. I just don't think it is necessary. I think it is much better to go in there and dig them out by hand. That is a large proposal. I hadn't planned on using the herbicide.

Nancy: Are the hay bales and silt fence still there that they had when breaking down the building?

Rick: Pretty much buried and gone, but there are some remnants of them around here. I hadn't proposed them for this work, although it may not be a bad idea because we are going to be up in this end.

Nancy: You'll be regrading the whole property in effect. You are going to be scraping off the top layer. That is a lot of bare earth to sit.

Rick: If you want to put that as a condition, we would be more than happy to re-establish that line while we do the construction.

Paul: Is there still a remaining foundation up there?

Rick: No, all the foundation is gone as far as I can see and we poked around a lot. All I kind of see that is left are these two concrete pieces of front. There is a tiny little corner of a walkway that wasn't even big enough to put on this plan, but I can't see any piece of the foundation.

Nancy: Then there is a monitoring well that you will have to protect when you do all your earth moving. Who is doing the sampling?

Rick: I am not sure. It is pretty much out of the City's hands. It went right to the state. The minute the spill happened, it went to the state in the afternoon.

Nancy: But now it's the owner of the property though.

Rick: The owner of the property is the City of Melrose. It thought the first place to go was the Building Inspector. I talked to him yesterday and he had no knowledge of it, so I had to keep on digging to find out whose got jurisdiction and what we have to do to protect those. Right now, I really don't know.

Paul: The former owner or the oil delivery company is the responsible party, their responsibility of coming in and sampling, and the city would have no legal liability as long as we did nothing to exacerbate the conditions or destroy or harm the wells. I think it is the city's obligation to maintain.

Rick: I probably should put the wells on this plan, but the first well is right in the middle, right here in the first bed, so it won't be in the grass, and the other two are here and here, they'll be in the bed and not in the ground.

Nancy: My comment earlier about that space in front of the benches, I just didn't want it to be nice a manicured lawn right down to the waterfront.

Rick: No, and there will be no lawn going in front of the 46 either. We'll just let that be natural. There is quite a few reeds and cattails in the water itself. Right now there is not a whole lot right there. There is just that broken down fence and a bunch of weeks. No, I am not going to run lawn in front of the 46 elevation. We hope to get to work on this site on September.

Peter: I move that we determine that this project is applicable and accept an Order of Conditions.

Paul: If this project is applicable, then the next step would that it be a positive determination requiring a Notice of Intent filed.

Rick: My intent was, because of the minimum disruption that we are doing to the area and the minimum of regrading and the actual positive in the net runoff as we are actually taking away impervious material, that we would get a Negative Determination of Applicability so we wouldn't have to come in for a complete Notice of Intent. That was our hope.

Paul: We can condition that it is Negative Determination as long as the existing hay bale lines be established. Is the existing line right after the waterfront?

Rick: Yes, it is actually closer than I need to put it. I could probably be 2 or 3 ft. this side of it and stay a lot out of the natural vegetation and still stop anything that is going to go there. It would be a much better place to put it, about 2 ft. to the property side of where it is now and I will remove the old one when we put the new one in.

Paul: Conditions will include hay bales and silt fence, 2 ft. on the property side of where the existing hay bale line is. I would like to condition the mechanical removal of the Japanese knot weed and non-approval of pesticide.

Nancy: And as usual, pond friendly fertilizers, if there is nearly phosphorus free ones, hopefully which you are using elsewhere around the pond. Restabilization of the shore banks so that the knot weed is out with the new plants, and not lawn, down to the waterfront.

Nancy: I am fully in favor of this project. My only reluctance is I wanted to make sure neighbors and the Ell Pond Committee had some input into this because I get the minutes from the Ell Pond Committee meetings and they are always raring to go on this. So if I have your assurance that they are fully behind this, and I am sure they are.

Rick: I will check in with Dave again. Dave and I talk constantly. You will see a note about this in the newsletter which came today to the Parks Dept. Dave and I just filed that other grant and I actually amended that other grant. The grant that we first drew up had this coming this way through the property and when I met there with the DesForges, they really didn't want to see that, so I amended the plan before I filed it, took that out and put this in here. That is why I made this connection this way it made so much more sense, but now that I see your suggestion makes a lot of sense, coming up the other way, which I will incorporate into it. We work closely with the Ell Pond Committee all the time.

Voted: Based on the additional conditions mentioned, this commission finds a Negative Determination of Applicability.

Paul: We will have Bob finish up the paperwork for this. I don't have a form for us to sign.

Nancy: I will be happy to come to provide a signature if needed. Also, I would like to take the copy of the Open Space Plan for a couple of days to review after which I will put it back in the In Box.

Paul: Bob has spoken to me in an Email printout, which I wasn't able to locate before I came today. He has been talking with representatives of MA Audubon to have somebody come and do a survey of the areas around Swains and Towners Ponds, looking at the nature of the vegetation, looking at land use aspects of it. It has a general estimate of costing about $2,000 for details. I don't think we are looking for a signoff of the project, but for some indication that Bob should pursue this.

Nancy: People who treated the ponds in 1996 or before had done a study or was that just of the water?

Paul: I think it was just of the water, not of the parkland around it.

Nancy: It would nice to be a baseline so if ten years from now we want to see if it has gotten better or worse, we know we are doing the right thing. I am in favor.

Voted: for Bob to pursue this project.

Voted: to adjourn at 8:30 p.m.

 

Respectfully submitted,

Nancy Pritchard
Commission Secretary