Meeting Minutes
Minutes of March 1, 2001
[Approved 4/19/01]
Present: Robert Boisselle, Bill Dailey, Paul Locke, Bruce Rider, David Valade
The Secretary is on vacation and will be out on medical leave until April 15. She will transcribe the tapes of the meetings.
MACC Workshops
The MACC meeting is this Saturday, 9:45 a.m. including four workshop series "Open Space", "Resource and Conservation", "Wetlands Protection Acts", "Science & Technology and Other Law & Policy". Those who attend will be reimbursed for dues.
Budget - 2002 Fiscal Year
The Budget Request for Fiscal Year 2002 was presented, totaling $47,940 which includes the guard rail. However, the Aquatic Control Technology sent Bob new prices, and some of the prices have decreased: follow up algaecide treatments was $1200, is now $1100. The algaecide treatment itself was $2800, is now $2650. There is a water analysis and date interpretation for the waters for about $1,000, so this total figure will be readjusted. Aquatic Control also submitted a couple of brochures concerning a fountain at Ell Pond. They are approximating at this time about $7500 to $8000 for a system that could go up and down, depending on the electrical connection we select. We have heard comments about putting up a fountain in the area. Do we want to pursue it or let it ride?
David: Well, that is there to circulate the water. What are they trying to circulate the water to help do?
Bob: To bring up the oxygenation in the pond itself. The warm weather dissolves the oxygen out so you are trying to regenerate more oxygen in the water for the biological life. Do you think we should pursue it to put it in the budget?. There is a $400,000 grant in the state for Ell Pond and it may get picked up there.
David: There are two parts of the cost. You said around $7000. I assume that is to install it. What is the annual operating costs? Someone has to pay for the power.
Bob: That I don't know. I have just received it. I haven't gone through the package on this and it would probably be running from April to at least October, so we are talking at least 7 or 8 months.
Bruce: Someone would probably have to pull it out for the winter, clean it and put it back in the spring.
Bob: That is a possibility, yes.
Bruce: So until we find out what the additional costs would be, I don't think we should go forward.
Bob: Is that a motion?
David: I agree. When it comes down to two things between a guardrail to better protect Swains Pond or this, I think we are better off with the guardrail and recommending that the Ell Pond Committee consider doing that. If they can't do it, we could submit a supplemental request later in the year once we have a full picture of the cost of electrical, etc.
Bob: We will strike the floating fountain out.
Mt. Hood - 12th Fairway
Bob: You have press releases in your hands. We have hit the Free Press for the past 3 weeks straight concerning our Cease & Desist Order against Mt. Hood, and one of the conditions was a submittal of a typed report to the commission at our first meeting, and we have our first report. We have an individual who is reporting daily to the Public Works Dept. and summarized in this letter dated 2/28/01 from Joe W. Lynch, Acting Supt. and City Engineer.
"Dear Commissioners:
In accordance with the special conditions imposed upon this permitted project under an enforcement action initiated by the Melrose Conservation Commission (dated February 7, 2001), I respectfully file this bi-weekly summary report. Attached please also find copies of the daily inspection reports filed by the Park Department staff.
1. Cease & desist all material import and filling operations as follows...
STATUS - Fill continues to be stockpiled on the upper, flat ground area away from the slope and away from the 12th fairway.
2. Fortify the erosion controls along the existing haul road (adjacent to the Jersey
Barriers)...
STATUS - Completed. Silt-migration from the haul road, side slopes, and surrounding areas towards the ILSF has been controlled by additional hay
bales, creation of check dams, and the creation of diversion dams so that
silt-laden runoff from the road is directed away from the resource area.
This condition is checked daily and continues to function as intended."
Comment by Paul: There were two points on our site visit, David. We talked about reinforcing the road. One was, you come up the road and it is the first ILSF where it appears to be caving in and some erosion on the side of it, so we have requested that they fortify that. Joe Lynch had asked Rick Amirault to have them grade the road away from the ILSF so the water would flow toward the compost. The road had been flattened and I am assuming it slipped away, but you can't really tell. The other area that we had concern was as the road comes up around the aisle and continues up the hill to the flat part where the ball fields will be, there is an area here which had eroded down into the ILSF, had flowed over the silt that hit the top of the hay bales. We asked that they reinforce the top up there.
Dave: What Joe asked to do is to reinforce the hay bales at the bottom, put a few rows kind of like they did on the stream that comes out over here, and grade the road so that the water would flow down the road instead of down the hill into that.
Paul: Did we ask them to put anything up the top part?
Dave: No, he was just going to put something to try and stop it from even getting to the filter before it hit the hay bale and left a mess at the bottom.
Paul: On that slope, though?
David: Yes, I haven't been back there.
Paul: There was nothing done on the road. I can't tell if the road has slipped away or whether they did anything to that. The area right at the top of that ridge still appears to be in the same condition it was before.
Bob: Is this what you saw tonight?
Paul: Yes, and I couldn't tell if anything was done far down the slope and it didn't appear as it was. I think they may have concentrated on the work on the other side.
Bob: For #2, the fortified controls at the existing haul road, what do you want done around the bend at this point?
Paul: It would be on the north side.
Bob: So it would be the north side to be reinforced.
Continuation of Joe Lynch's letter:
"3. Cease & desist all construction activities associated with the new drainage piping
system upon the 12th fairway.
STATUS - C&D conditionally lifted to allow drain pipe to be installed so
that silt-laden runoff from the slope is intercepted and directed away from
resource area. This condition is checked daily and continues to function
as intended and approved.
4. Immediately remove (defeat) the piped connection to "Wetland 3" of the recently
discovered buried perforated pipe beneath the 12th fairway.
STATUS - Work Complete! The defeated connection and dug sump in
the fairway has implemented a Best Management Practice and collects
runoff water and silt and allows the silt and other suspended solids to settle out as intended. This condition is checked daily and continues to function as intended.
5. Immediately fortify the erosion controls adjacent to "Wetland 2" to eliminate the
migration of silt that has breached the existing erosion controls.
STATUS - Work complete! Hay bales and a stone, earth, and filter-fabric
berm was installed to filter out silt that is borne in the flowing water.
BMP functions as intended. This condition is checked daily and continues
to function as intended.
6. Notify an authorized representative of the Melrose Conservation Commission
upon the completion of Orders 1 through 5 above. Not fewer than two members
of the Melrose Conservation shall conduct a compliance inspection as to the
satisfactory completeness of Orders 1 through 5. The inspecting party shall then
render a decision as to the continued or suspended status of the Cease & Desist
aspect of this Enforcement Order.
STATUS - Complete! Inspection made by David Valade and Paul Locke
at an open site walk held at 1:00 p.m. on Saturday 2/17/01.
7. Install Rock Retaining wall now to function as a filter safety berm at Wetland 2.
STATUS - Work ongoing with an anticipated completion date of Saturday 3/3/01. The project team will notify the MCC upon completion and request an inspection. It is the hope that the MCC will then authorize commencement to transport of fill onto the fairway area."
Discussion regarding above item:
David: To put the rock retention wall in? I asked them when they started to notify me so I could come and inspect them when they did it.
Bob: They haven't started. He was there tonight.
David: It sounds like there that they did start.
Bob: The work order is cut to do the project and it looks as though tomorrow is going to be a day to complete it, or get it working and complete it by Saturday. That is the way it looks.
David: It kind of dumfounds me how they are going to build a 10 ft. high wall that is going to be somewhere around 70 ft. in two days. It is not consistent with the discussions we had at the site. First, I wanted to see when they started building it what they were doing so I would have a better understanding. Second, is that they said if they built the wall they needed to fill in behind it because otherwise that wall is going to fall over the way they are planning on doing the construction.
Bob: What they will be doing from my understanding as of this morning, they will be putting in the wall and behind the wall will be a 4 ft. bag of rocks and then fill behind that which will then filter as the water comes through the ground, through the filter of the bag rocks and then through the large rocks themselves. The rocks themselves are not boulders, they are blocks of 2 x 3 x 3, or one of the combinations of that, so it is almost like an erector set that is going to be built at this point.
David: So they are like cobble stones or like bricks, but they are made out of rock.
Continuation of letter from Joe Lynch:
"8. The Superintendent of Parks shall appear before the Melrose Commission at its
next scheduled Commission meeting (February 15th, 2001). The Superintendent
shall be prepared to discuss fully all aspects of the environmental character of the
project (or various projects) as they relate to the various jurisdictions of the
Wetlands Protection Act, including but not limited to...
STATUS - Complete! Mr. Amirault & I appeared before the MCC at its February 15th public hearing.
9. Secure the services of a professional wetland scientist to conduct an environmental
assessment on all resource areas abutting the project(s) (ILSF #1, ILSF #2 on
project One) (Wetland 1, Wetland 2, and Wetland 3 on project 2)... and Penny Road
(stream).
STATUS - No Action, seasonal dependent. Project team will advance this item along when ground and soil conditions allow an effective field evaluation to take place. Said assessment and restoration plan shall be submitted to the MCC at a public meeting and shall be reviewed."
Discussion of above item:
David: There is another place they are supposed to evaluate as well. Wetland 3 has a stream that flows down to the wetland that is on Penny Road near the 14th fairway, and they were going to evaluate that. I haven't observed it, but Mr. Foss said that the water that had flowed down there did contain the silt, so they said they were going to look at it.
Bob: Stream to Penny Road?
David: Yes
Bob: Okay
Continuation of Joe Lynch's letter
10. The applicant shall undertake and complete the approved restoration plan under the stipulated timetable established jointly by the wetland scientist and the Commission.
STATUS - No Action, seasonal dependent. Project team will advance this item along when ground and soil conditions allow an effective field evaluation to take place. Said assessment and restoration plan shall be submitted to the MCC at a public meeting and shall be reviewed.
We appreciate your continued assistance and cooperation in this difficult project. We continue to look forward to working with you."
Bob: I have the written reports here also. Pass this around and have a look at it.
Paul: One of the other things that they did that we had asked them to site walk is the area that had ponded water coming off of the slope and seemed to be sinking in through there and then going under the road through fractures, and then coming out and going into Pond 3. We asked them to scrape back the contaminated material and the sediment material.
Bob: That wasn't described there. Can we describe it as the parking lot problem? Is that where the parking lot is going to be?
David: Call it the depression on the 11th fairway indicated with an altitude of 205.4 ft. to the northwesterly direction of the green.
Paul: This isn't a problem, actually they fixed it. They pulled back the material and they extended the hay bale lines, plus the material to keep other dirt they scrapped back, forming a berm there as well so to the area that was ponding is now clean dirt so when water hits, it is dry now, but when water does pond there it won't be disturbing and actually down in that intermittent stream coming down to wetland 3 that comes down out of the side of the hill, you can actually see now when we went on our site visit, that material was coming out gray suspended clay. Now it is coming out clearer.
Bob: Anything else concerning Mt. Hood and the 12th tee?
Paul: Another one of David's issues is the second pile out there, water hole 2, where the material had come down and overrun the barriers here.
David: Two ways, partly through the filling they had knocked the bales out, and also through a different part the silt had built up and penetrated it. It was actually very interestingly flowing out through the hay bale line here. You could see water that was stained where it had come in here, flowed through the hay bale in there, had formed what probably will be another ILSF if they leave it in the current state, and then it flowed out of one of them into the second one.
Paul: So we get credit for the replication. Did we come to any agreement on any work that needed to be done?
David: Joe wanted them to stabilize it and change the direction so the water didn't flow there and I think the hay bale line.
Paul: I climbed down there and the hay bale line has not been fixed. I am not sure if anything has been done at the top, but certainly not hay bale line at the time here.
David: He didn't ask for one there. He asked at least that they grade it so there was kind of a berm across the top so it flowed this way instead of down there.
Paul: You can't really tell if that has been done. It might have been done, but there has not been any work done on the hay bales at the bottom of that. The other good news is over back at wetland 2 the golf cart path that comes down the north side of wetland 2 had been just bringing a stream of material down off of these big piles, it put in a series kind of barriers to keep stuff coming off the piles and then to slow it down and stop it as it is running down. It has worked to the point where behind one row of hay bales you can see there is probably a good almost a foot of very fine clay material that has settled behind the hay bales. The hay bales have stopped it. It is nice and flat behind the hay bales as it settled out.
David: It is too bad that the Free Press couldn't come to hear us commending the fact that they are actually reacting in a positive manner.
Correspondence
Summary of the Ell Pond Improvement Council Annual Meeting, February 1, 2001 was read.
"In Attendance: Dave Dickerson, Ainsley Donaldson, Susan Spranger
2001 Festival - Ainsley Donaldson will ask ReMax if the hot air balloon will be available for use at the festival once a date has been chosen.
Water Quality Monitoring - Dave Dickerson collected water samples today from six locations around the pond. These samples will be tested for bacterial counts. As it rained in the past few days, these samples will be considered a wet-weather event. Samples will be collected in the near future after a rain-free period, and then collected quarterly. The results of this round of testing will be available at the next meeting of the committee. The committee discussed ways to obtain additional funding for further testing.
Other business - The committee discussed the value of putting a regular article in the Melrose Free Press which will approach specific topics about the pond and surrounding watershed. These articles would appear once per month and serve to educate the public, raise awareness, and keep the pond in the forefront of the minds of town residents. Topics may include wildlife, water quality, vegetation, impact of different activities, historical significance, etc.
At the November 2, 2000 meeting, the committee unanimously voted to move the date of the Ell Pond Improvement Council Annual Meeting to the first Thursday in March to better coincide with the annual financial accounting system. It was also agreed that the officers and directors maintain their position until that time when elections would take place.
The Annual Meeting of the Ell Pond Improvement Council, Inc. will be held on Thursday, March 1, 2001 at 7:00 p.m. at the second floor trustee room of the Melrose Public Library."
Bob: This also brings up another situation. The annual selection of board chairman for the conservation committee will occur at the next meeting. We do it after the first Monday of the month, so at the next meeting which will be the 15th, if anyone wants to be the chair, you are welcome to it.
David: Could we form a nominating committee so that we can entrust you in the future with this.
Bob: Would you like to be chair of that committee?
David: Of the Nominating Committee? Sure.
Bill: We will all be on that committee.
36 Slayton Road
Bob: A Notice of Intent. We received this package this evening. This is for project locations at 36 Slayton Road in Melrose, Map G7, Lot 62. The representative is the Hayes Engineering and the contact name is Elizabeth Wallace and Peter Ogren, 603 Salem St., Wakefield, and the applicant is James D. Confalone at 401 Edgewater Place, Suite 630, Wakefield, MA, phone no. 781-246-2565. The general project description is as follows: the applicant proposed to construct single family houses, driveways and perform associated grading as shown on the accompanying plan. We have a plan here showing three houses on Slayton Road and one house in the rear part of Slayton Road with a long extended driveway from Slayton Road to the house, approximately a 300 ft. driveway. Lot #2 will be 153,696 sq. ft. Lot #1 will be just about 16,000 sq. ft., Lot #3 - 11,000 sq. ft., Lot #4 - 11,000 sq. ft. Lot 2 is the largest lot of the four. Any questions? I will place this on the docket and have that advertised in the paper for the next meeting for a 7:45 p.m. hearing.
Bill: I think in the application they describe the work as only being 1360 sq. ft. of wetland area by BVW, but aren't they actually working in buffer zone if they put a house here and all over the place?
Bob: Yes.
Bill: The application doesn't read that way though. Aren't they in the buffer zone with everything they do, and actually in the wetlands all the way through the roadway?
Bob: The resource area is BVW. They are only indicating they are in the 1360 sq. ft.
Bill: But these are going to be all new homes, so their application is a bit minimal.
Bob: Very minimal. It is interesting when you look at the bordering vegetated wetlands, there is only 1300 sq. ft., bordering land subject to flooding is not applicable, the land under water body is not applicable, isolated land subject to flooding is not applicable.
David: It is all flood plain, isn't it?
Bob: I believe it is. On the map it says according to the flood zone.
Bruce: My concern is if they fill in the road there, they are going to create a dam and impede any flood waters that might have gone into the wetland.
Bob: That is for discussion at the meeting itself. If you have suggestions and concerns, that is the time to bring it up at the meeting, if there is going to be like you say a dam that is going to be built, the flow will have to be continued through it somehow, either by a piping system or some other method.
Bruce: We don't need another Granite and Burnett.
Bob: Right.
David: Also, they have riverfront not applicable, but there is a stream that comes out of it that crosses the first stairway. I don't know if it is applicable or not, we might want to discuss that with them. You recall it was something that we worked with quite some time ago.
Bob: That stream coming across the fairway was built specifically to relieve the problem.
David: But it is a stream.
Bob: Is there a name to that stream?
David: I don't know.
Bob: Is it on any map?
David: It is on the map that we have in our file that outlines the golf course.
Bob: Okay, bring it up at the meeting.
David: It is what I have said in the past, and we can tell them, this isn't something we are going to use to stop them from doing it. We just want to make sure they cover everything.
Bob: We have a number of people outside of this room. I am not sure why.
Mt. Hood 12th Fairway
David: Before we talk about the people outside, one of the comments from Al Buerra is "could you please let myself or Julian Dami know when it is possible to use clay fill over his drain pipes." Are they referring to the drain pipes that are in the fairway?
Bob: Yes
David: Based on what you saw when you were up there today, he said the indications are that all of the barriers are fine. They have been working okay, they are inspecting them daily, it sounds like I would be comfortable after what we have seen to say yes, you can start using it to stabilize the pipe, not general filling, but....
Paul: Apparently, they had problems with loading pipes. When I went up there today they had put crushed stone, rather than clay to weight it down. I don't think they need that.
Bob invited the individuals outside to come into the meeting.
Bob: At this time we are having a submittal of a Notice of Intent for a house to be built at the end of Hemenway Ave. Does the applicant have the Notice of Intent?
Steve Amero: There are two completely signed copies and other copies for everybody.
Bob: Basically, at this time we are looking for a brief description of the project. At the next meeting there will be a formal presentation with the public invited to give comments and to hear what you are presenting. Who is giving the brief presentation this evening.
George Zambouras, an engineer for the project and representing Steve Amero: The site is on Lot 1. The top sheet just shows what the existing conditions are on the side without any improvements whatsoever. The second sheet actually shows the exact same lot. It is a double of the scales and a 1" ten scale, shows the proposed dwelling that is being proposed complete with a wood deck in the rear, stairs, sidewalk, driveway out to the roadway and the roadway being extended to provide the required paved roadway that the Planning Board and Department of Public Works is requiring. They are requiring that the roadway be extended the full width of what it is right now towards the end of the street, which is 18 ft.wide. The lot will be regraded. There will be a small retaining wall on the northerly end of the site adjacent to the walkway, and then there will be another wood retaining wall to the rear to terrace the lot and provide more area of flat surface where the house is going to be built. There will also be a masonry stonewall towards the left corner of where the roadway is being extended, right where the grades start to rise up somewhat, just above the City of Malden on the line where it shows. Just above the letters there is a 25-30 ft. length of stonewall there because the 2 to 1 grades weren't achievable.
Bob: The Public Works is requesting that?
Mr. Zambouras: Gradewise, they are not to stabilize the slope. It is impractical to go greater than 2 to 1 grading and to enable 2 to 1 grading and the length of the roadway, what they are apparently requiring it's necessary to build a wall in that area. We are having another meeting with them to see if it is possible to cut the roadway back a little bit, but to date they are saying they want the paved surface the full length of the lot. In order to protect the intermittent stream, which is just off site, there will be a series of hay bales going across the roadway during construction against the stonewall and towards the rear of the property to intercept any runoff that occurs during the construction, and also to help mitigate the increase in the pervious areas. The roof transfer for the existing building will be connected to drywalls that will be constructed, one in front and one at the rear of the property.
Bob: In front of the property?
Mr. Zambouras: Just to the right of the driveway if you follow dash lines off the corner of the house. The existing sewer line and water line right now currently terminate basically at the end of the existing pavement, which is where the scallop line is, which demarks the edge of the wooded area right now. There will be a water service brought off the end of the existing water main. The sewer pipe that is there actually dips down underneath the drainage system on Hemenway Street itself, so what would be required is there will be a sewer pump station, which is located in the driveway just outside of the structure. From there will be a force main and there will be a 2 in. polyethylene pipe that will slide through the existing 6 in. surface connection that is there back to the manhole. So the only construction will be actually on the physical lot and for the roadway there will be no construction whatsoever on the existing paved surface.
Bob: I notice you have a proposed underground propane tank. Why is that?
Mr. Zambouras: Currently, that is how the house is going to be fueled for heat.
Paul: How does that get filled out of curiosity?
Mr. Zambouras: A truck comes with a long hose, just like they deliver oil.
Bob: Will they be able to reach?
Steve Amero: I believe they said they could go in at least 100 ft.
Mr. Zambouras: Which they would make it, the entire lot is only 120 ft. The tank is located in that corner because there are certain setback dimensions from the structure. That is really the only convenient place to get an access to it. It wouldn't fit in the front. It doesn't fit between the two existing houses because the setbacks don't permit it.
Steve Amero: It was one of the things the propane company said that it was more environmentally friendly than anything else, like an oil tank.
David: I probably have some questions that you could address, because it is within the buffer zone, just about the history of these and what if it leaks, etc. Propane, when it is put in that tank, is actually in a liquid form. When it is outside the pressure, it would evaporate. When it is underground, then if it leaks it is going into the soil.
Mr. Zambouras: It will still evaporate, but we will get you some documentation on it.
Bob: Are they recommending underground or above ground?
Mr. Zambouras: Actually, you can go either way.
David: A couple of other comments. I saw you have drainage calculations in here. I didn't have time to look through them and not being an engineer, I cannot always understand them anyway, but I suspect when we have the public hearing it may be asked to address particularly those and whether or not runoff will impact any of the neighborhood properties. It is good to see it is in there. Also, I think we probably want a Riverways filing because this is within the 100 or 200 ft. of the intermittent stream. It is just an extra couple of page form that we want you to put in to make sure you get all the bases covered.
Mr. Zambouras: I can file it, but it doesn't meet the classifications of a river.
Bob: It is just to complete the document itself and will show we did address it.
David: It is not going to change what we decide, but no one will be able to complain that you didn't do it afterwards.
Mr. Zambouras: Okay, that is fine.
David: The other thing too is the stream that runs way behind your property, I don't know if that is within 200 ft. or whatever it is, you just might want to get an idea of whether or not you need to address that as well.
Mr. Zambouras: Just quickly with the drainage. For the most part right now the drainage off the property basically runs from the south/north direction eventually through the wall and into the brook. What happens now due to the construction of the house and the regrading of the lot, only the rear of the property actually comes down into the drainage soil itself. The remainder gets pushed out towards the front and the roadway and goes into the roadway drainage system. It ends up in the same, just follows a different path. I believe this neighbor over here has expressed concerns before and the slight redirection of the runoff into the roadway eliminates an adverse impact as a result of the development. If you are going to make a site walk, would you like us to be there. That way if you have any other questions, we can address them for the meeting itself.
Bob: Yes. Why don't you make a schedule for that? Is this your number 978-922-0217?
Mr. Zambouras: I will give you another number also - 781-721-7100. There will be someone to take a message at this number if you cannot reach me at the other number which is my home number.
Bob: Guidelines for this project is basically you receive a list of the abutters. Notify the abutters. There will be an advertisement in the paper done by us, notifying the public that there is a Notice of Intent for construction of a home on Hemenway Ave. It will be an open hearing. That meeting will immediately following the hearing at 7:45 p.m. on March 15. The total fee for the submittal of the Notice of Intent is done at that time or at the present time. You will be giving a formal presentation with the public asking questions and other commissioners asking questions.
Mr. Zambouras: As far as copies, you have a few copies now and we will be adding the Riverways portion. Do you want a new set complete with the Riverways, and if you do, how many?
Bob: Just an addendum. I will take one extra copy to put on public display in the Planning office for anyone that wants to come in and look at them.
Bruce: Does the property cross into the City of Malden?
Mr. Zambouras: Yes.
Steve Amero: I have a list of the abutters in Malden. I will be sending notice to them.
Voted: To open up the meeting to the public.
Priscilla Hook: 10 Elmcrest Circle: It is about Mt. Hood, but not what is going on now. It is in the future. Has anyone heard about a concession stand and bathroom facilities to be built near the field?
Paul: We had brought that up at one of the meetings. I think we were told at that time, no.
Priscilla Hook: Linda Benezra heard, yes, and it would be a little duplicate of the clubhouse. I was wondering about sewer lines or would they do septic?
Bob: They would be back before us.
Priscilla Hook: Do you think they would be back before you before they built it though? They seem to move on their own.
David: If they are just building a concession stand and it doesn't have any plumbing or anything like that in it, and they do it after we say okay, and they have met the Order of Conditions in all the other areas, then they won't have to come before us, but if they are
doing something where they do have to put sewer lines in because they have bathrooms or other facilities like that, then they definitely have to come before us unless they find a very clever and unique way to run the lines that don't go what I call the most direct route which would go through bordering areas.
Paul: They wouldn't be able to put in septic up there, because they have just put in this clay that it is going to fail a perk test.
David: Besides they would violate the City of Melrose building code, wouldn't they?
Bob: No septic systems. I don't think it is allowed in the city anymore.
Priscilla Hook: People have them don't they?
Bob: There are a few, like the Hillside area and in the Altamont area, but even those that fail, they will have difficult installing new ones.
Voted: To close the public meeting.
Voted: To adjourn. The secretary was not present to record the time of adjournment.
Respectfully submitted,
Nancy Pritchard
Secretary